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There are some wicked bigblocks down here including a new Mountain Boss with a 606 Donovan and a 175 hp nitrous hit (Ed's), and Mike Kelly's 540 stroker motor with a 175 hp nitrous shot but...King Of The Hill is still Doug with Gary's old ('02) smallblock. Huge wheelstands and just nudging the high 5's at the track.

Doug's latest was tearing it apart once again including cutting the top frame rails in half laterally, and putting on a new set of World Motown 222 heads with matching intake, new carb, and a new 300+ hp nitrous system. If any of you guys see a black Boss in Daytona with shock mounted bottles AND a big blue 10lb bottle on the luggage rack, that's Doug. Follow him around a bit and you'll undoubtedly see the front end in the air.

I give up trying to keep up with Gary and Doug. Between blowers and 300 hp nitrous and the loads of goodies these guys are running, I'm just going to ride next to them hoping the bystanders think it's MY bike making all the noise.

Smallblocks ruling the roost in SW Florida.

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Elliot,

Being one of the more modest SF guys (speaking of myself), and knowing your attitude when you saddle-up with the posse - I'm sure you will be either tricking the chopper some more or looking for a Pratt & Whitney four stage jet engine that can be mounted on two wheels - - cause, in my opinion that's about the only thing left to try!

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Out of curiosity, I wonder on the big blocks Mountain Boss Hoss sells what the dyno runs show (mine for example is 600 at 2500 rpm and still 598 at 5900) and specifically where they start making the big torque and how flat the curve is? During conversations with the engine builder who did my motor he had the heads, cam shaft all custom made by the manufactures to specifically make the torque curve very long and flat which is not the case with car engines because they have gears and we don’t.
 

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Gary's old bike was SWEET ... I'd love to be running that engine he built in my bike! The sound, the power - NICE :D Wish he was selling when I was buying!
 

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BD,

The torque curve on my 502 nitrous trike was also very flat. Mine actually fell off a bit by 5,000 and topped out like yours, just below 2,500.

The guy who bought/owns the Mountain bike down here with the big Donovan takes it pretty easy. The shop that installed his nitrous system, Summit BH on Marco Island is run by Mike Kelly. No fear there. Mike insists on testing what he sells and after the nitrous install, he hit 175 hp shot of nitrous while at WOT and about 60 mph. The back end (Metzler 280) came flying around and it was close to a tank slapper.

Mike's bigblock is capable of setting our track record especially with his new gearing and tire setup. To date however, smallblocks have the title.

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Rick,

Gary said last night he hoped he didn't make a mistake going with the "little" 144 blower. Already scanning the Jeg's and Summit books looking at the Weiand 6-71 and 8-71 varieties.

I'm done Dude! Just gonna have to settle for doing like you...looking so purdy, hee hee.

Get yo' ass over there and see the latest. You won't believe Doug. He looked like a mad scientist cutting the frame on the Boss last night.

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BD,

The torque curve on my 502 nitrous trike was also very flat. Mine actually fell off a bit by 5,000 and topped out like yours, just below 2,500.

The guy who bought/owns the Mountain bike down here with the big Donovan takes it pretty easy. The shop that installed his nitrous system, Summit BH on Marco Island is run by Mike Kelly. No fear there. Mike insists on testing what he sells and after the nitrous install, he hit 175 hp shot of nitrous while at WOT and about 60 mph. The back end (Metzler 280) came flying around and it was close to a tank slapper.

Mike's bigblock is capable of setting our track record especially with his new gearing and tire setup. To date however, smallblocks have the title.

Elliot
Thanks--My TQ numbers peak at 689 at 4400. I have on my flame suit here but anyone who runs the 280, 300 etc. esp. on a big block is just waiting to die! Talked to too many engineers in the industry and as I understand it many of the dealers are making people sign waivers for these tires. If it were my shop, you can bet you last dollar that I would require the waiver acknowledging that the tire is not approved and is not recommended by the manufacture for this application and I would not buy it or mount it to the rim dead people don’t sue but their survivors do. Depending on what my counsel advised I might not even do that! If you call any of the manufacturers, ask them about the tires, and tell them they are for a BH they will not speak with you any further—try it I did and that was just for the FRONT tire! Oh, well to some looking good is everything.
 

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El:

Maybe I'll get the nads to run mine at the strip this summer....eighth mile
only........An then I would have to borrow a full leather suit, and install
a kill switch attached to my arm.

Just wonder how far it will spit that 7-inch ring gear?? I'am currently
runing BFG-drag rads on the back now, but my traction is not too good
on the street, much less the strip. I hate to invest in slicks for one days
worth of running............If it last that long. :lol: :lol:

I have a friend that runs a low 8-second Harley, might be able to talk him into running it.

Maybe you got the right idea with that looks thing......or I just might
stay a dyno queen. :lol: :beer3:

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Geez,

You may be surprised at how much better you can run at the track. Smoke those tires up, run after some of the big guys have warmed the track and the track crew sprays the sticky stuff. Are they 325's or smaller? As I recall, the Coupe had some wheelwell limitations stock. Either you or Neil indicated 275's or 295's at some point.

Even with the 325 Hoosiers on the '57 trike, it would blow the tires away with a nitrous squirt if not careful. With your blower, it would seem that you could have much more controlled, linear acceleration.

The mid 6's I used to run with the trike was a result of never having nailed that damn shift governor setup right. Springs and weights gave unlimited number of settings and I'd just shift into 3rd too early or run out of steam in 2nd or whatever. Never had the nads to ratchet shift it.

One things for sure, gotta have that wheelie bar for trike launches. One way or another, go from the dyno to the 1/8th mile track. It does good things for the mind and spirit and the young pups love seeing an ol' Geezer haul ass down the track!

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Elliot,

Hear you on the Gary - with his ability and desires one never knows I guess! I heard about Doug's chop shop - sounds interesting to say the least!

No doubt about looking purdy - goes double when we ride side by side!

Will see you soon my friend -
 
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