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I have a 03 zz4 with the hot cam,bought it from Marv about 1.5 yrs. ago.I had the #7 converter installed by BH of conn.I have a really stupid question to ask,how does this converter work?When your on the line and you hit the throttle the bike is supposed to wait until you hit the correct rpms and then launch?Also I am running the stock tire(230) and rim how much throttle should I be using to do a burn-out from the stand still and rolling?Really want to have some fun with this bike and not sure how to do it.Once your done laughing I would really appreciate the help.LOL Thanks
 

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Sorry, must of posted this the first time in my sleep, it's fixed now. :oops:

First off I wouldn't do a stand-still burnout until you get pretty good with the bike. Best thing to do is get rolling about 20 mph and then grab a handful and the bike should stay pretty strait while your smoking. Launching a Boss sideways is not a good thing and will pitch you off of it faster than you can blink. :roll:

Just find you a nice strait road and practice, or come to Daytona and I'm sure a bunch of us will give you lessons. :twisted:

 

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eldiablokid said:
Hey everyone,
I have a 03 zz4 with the hot cam,bought it from Marv about 1.5 yrs. ago.I had the #7 converter installed by BH of conn.I have a really stupid question to ask,how does this converter work?When your on the line and you hit the throttle the bike is supposed to wait until you hit the correct rpms and then launch?
The stall converter basically works like slipping the clutch. It will get you rolling with very little throttle, but the more you raise your rpm the higher torque you are applying to the wheel, till you hit your stall speed rpm, that is when you are at lockup, which is like the clutch fully engaged. Before lockup you are allowing the engine to rev up to a higher horsepower/torque rpm without the wheel bogging the engine down, so you get into your power range faster. Hope this helps!
 

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Lamont is right. I have done hundreds of 100 yard long burnouts from a 10-40 MPH roll, but I have never attempted one from a dead stop. I hope to do it some day, but I worry that the bike will be all over the place.

As a reminder...NEVER let off of the gas during a burnout if the bike is not straight!!!!!!!!! Just as you should never let off of the rear brake if you accidentially lock up the rear tire in a panic stop and it gets sideways. If you do let off of the gas (or brake in a stop) while not straight, the bike will whip itself to the straight position and, most likely, "high-side" you right off the bike!

Although, as Crazy Rick says, after you get good at it, you will work on pushing the back end of the bike back and forth for a little more of an adrenaline hit!

I have had three times where my bike got so far sideways that I thought it was all over. Luckily it had been ingrained in my brain to not let up! I stayed in the throttle until I got the bike straight, then went home to change my shorts.

Bill

P.S. All three times that the bike got sideways to the extreme, the bike had not yet warmed up fully. When I cracked open the throttle the engine briefly stumbled, then caught hard. That caused the, not so pleasant, sensation of waiting to see what the rear tire would look like if it passed me.
 

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Man. You guys are something. I like to hit it from about 30 or so but I never stay in it for that long. Some of you are experts in the area of risk management! This high siding and pitching me off stuff gets my attention. :D


Chris
Smoke em if ya can!
 

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Have done a couple of burnouts on my ZZ4 :lol: , most from 10mph & up, but a few from a dead stop.......from a dead stop they are very interesting and tend to raise the blood pressure about 20 points (just ask Wag).......one commonality (at least on a small block) the rear end always drifts to the right when you launch them.....dead stop or roll on, if you light it up hard enough and are running a round (MC) tire......with a car tire they tend to be pretty straight.

Like they say, idle out to about 10+ mph, be sure you are stright and centered on the scoot, give a quick rap on the throttle and pay attention to your heading :lol: 8) DO NOT LET UP ON THE THROTTLE when it gets sideways, just pucker up and stay on the gas....it will straighten itself out once the momentum creates enough gyroscopic force......trust me, my longest is 492' and after the first 50' it was straight as a chalk line.

Once I put the car tire on, I can launch almost from a dead stop and it stays straight...........most of the time :lol:

Once you get good at it, add a shot of nitrous, hit the button and really have a rush :lol: 8)

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On second thought maybe I won't meet up with you guys at bike week....got a feeling you're going to be a bad influence on me. Nesco #7 is in and scheduled for install on Feb 21st. Is Valium the recommended drug for us "burn out" novices? Or is it Viagra? Keep getting them confused.
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The last part of this video will show you what the Boss is going to do on a slow roll on burnout. The parking lot was pretty short and I was still getting use to the bike back then. :oops:
This is a 5 meg video. :shock:
http://www.bigbikeriders.com/images/inzaneburn.wmv

eldiablokid said:
Hey everyone,
I have a 03 zz4 with the hot cam,bought it from Marv about 1.5 yrs. ago.I had the #7 converter installed by BH of conn.I have a really stupid question to ask,how does this converter work?When your on the line and you hit the throttle the bike is supposed to wait until you hit the correct rpms and then launch?Also I am running the stock tire(230) and rim how much throttle should I be using to do a burn-out from the stand still and rolling?Really want to have some fun with this bike and not sure how to do it.Once your done laughing I would really appreciate the help.LOL Thanks
 

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We need you for the "Get out of Jail Free" card. :twisted:

cstraube said:
On second thought maybe I won't meet up with you guys at bike week....got a feeling you're going to be a bad influence on me. Nesco #7 is in and scheduled for install on Feb 21st. Is Valium the recommended drug for us "burn out" novices? Or is it Viagra? Keep getting them confused.
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AHHHH One of my favorite topics! On my bike when I had the stock motor and tire the bike would always TQ to the left every time! Had to be REAL careful when feathering off of so as not to high side when the bike got way out and came back after an abrupt let off of the throttle!!! Even with the old 502 the stock tire would smoke at 60 to 70 given the right kind of pavement. At those speeds the bike would still drift to the left but not as far. The slower speeds is where you have to be careful! I never do a burnout from a standstill as the tires I use now have enough grip that it would require the use of a lot of front brake!

The new engine and modified tranny and drive system and this has been the case with 3 different brands of tires (currently using a 265 35 18 Advan A048) now pretty much tracks straight when smoking the tires and I have done a couple over 400yds! Have fun but experiment carefully as these things are heavy and you don’t want to drop it!
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I finally got up the nads last weekend to do a burn out from a stop. First I made sure the road surface was FLAT. Grabbed the front brake and held it... Got me a handful of throttle and lit her up. The bike was pushing a little right so I let go of the brake and really nailed it...... WOW... what a rush. lots of smoke..... very long... way cool burn out. If you are going to try this just make sure you know where you are and have plenty of room. But like I said..... WHAT A RUSH!!!
 

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Lamont,
Haven't seen you since Biketoberfest. After stopping to see you at the Sunshine Mall some of my buddies from Cleveland and I took a ride out towards the Iron Horse. While on one of the 4 lanes pretty far out of town allegedly I got on it pretty hard to catch up to the others (accelerator stuck, blowing out the carbon, bad gas, going to the hospital....don't remember which) just as a police car was hiding against a wall near a shopping center (DIRTY PIGS). My friends, upon seeing the police car, pulled over immediately getting a camera out of one of their saddlebags to get a picture of me being stopped. I'm certain they would have sent it back home to the local newspaper before I got home. SOME FRIENDS, HUH. Anyway, he pulled out, got behind me, but never pulled me over. Not sure why not.....OK, maybe I do. For those of you that haven't figured it out from Lamont's post...., I'm the Chief of Police here...... You can all stop laughing now, the joke was almost on me
 

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I liked you before I knew what you did for a living. ;)

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Lamont,
Haven't seen you since Biketoberfest. After stopping to see you at the Sunshine Mall some of my buddies from Cleveland and I took a ride out towards the Iron Horse. While on one of the 4 lanes pretty far out of town allegedly I got on it pretty hard to catch up to the others (accelerator stuck, blowing out the carbon, bad gas, going to the hospital....don't remember which) just as a police car was hiding against a wall near a shopping center (DIRTY PIGS). My friends, upon seeing the police car, pulled over immediately getting a camera out of one of their saddlebags to get a picture of me being stopped. I'm certain they would have sent it back home to the local newspaper before I got home. SOME FRIENDS, HUH. Anyway, he pulled out, got behind me, but never pulled me over. Not sure why not.....OK, maybe I do. For those of you that haven't figured it out from Lamont's post...., I'm the Chief of Police here...... You can all stop laughing now, the joke was almost on me
 

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"Chief",

If you ride a BH you don't need Viagra :lol: 8) That's why so many "mature" BH riders have such young significant others..........

Tim
 

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Tim,
I've been called "old" before but "mature" has never been mentioned....oh well maybe there's hope; but not likely. Although, I'm going to work hard to be more like Steve :D . Never met him (I'm sure I'd remember). He seems so conservative.
Conrad "Chief"
 

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Conrad,

Oh, you'd remember him for sure :lol: Steve does tend to be a bit on the conservative side and not much fun to party with.......but if you have to go out with him, bring along a LARGE bottle of Advil for the next morning :capwin: :cop2:

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I've inadvertently done burnouts from a dead stop with my small block stroker and don't like them. Your control is very limited. Just whack the throttle to WOT at 25-30 mph and you'll smoke the puppy with much more control and a smaller chance of dying! I've hit it hard at 45 mph and burned rubber which I like much better because the sideways drift is much more controllable. It's actually more of the rear end getting squirrely than drifting.
To each his own but BE CAREFUL! You can get yourself in trouble really fast. Don't forget that most of us on this site have been riding the Boss a long time and know it's characteristics. Be patient...Joe
 

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8) I feel like I have to defend myself here....but I'm not going to!!!!! Its almost 8:30...PM, and I'm heading to bed.

Tim, a couple posts up I was reading from you on the burn outs....I quote "it will straighten itself out once the momentum creates enough gyroscopic force..." "GYROSCOPIC FORCE" you say!!.....what the hell, you are getting way to sufistekted for this board!!!!!Lmfao......nite all Steve 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
 

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Ya, but you knew what I meant :oops: Maybe its the modulator in the water pump that straightens it out..........I don't know..............all I know is if you hold it long enough the damned thing goes straight.....for whatever it's pointed at............

First time I tried my NOS it was about halfway through a long burnout, by the time the bike quit turning right and the tire settled down, I just nailed the button and realized I was headed for the curb on the oncoming lane :oops: 8) Interesting thing about a curb, it just points you parallel to the street and off you go down the street :lol:

Tim
 
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