300 series tires

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V8GRUMPY

Discussion Starter · Jun 3, 2004

Stopped ay Chopper City on the way home last nite, got to see one of the new 300 Avons mounted up and ready for a bike..........god are they big next to a 280..............huge difference 8) Marv said he already has one on the street.

Also got to see a new widened swingarm they were just unwrapping for a project.......stuff never ends :lol:

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V8soundlover

· #2 · Jun 3, 2004

Last weekend I've been in the Harz Mountains to meet a guy who owns the yellow 94' "Street-Fighter" style Boss Hoss. I posted a couple of pics a while ago. His name is Peer. A really cool guy. He just mounted the new 300 Avon on his bike. Yes, it's looking pretty wild. The bad part of this story is, that I wasn't able to take pictures, cause Ramona took our digicam with her to a horse-riding event the same morning...GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! :cus:

Loaf

TJzz4

· #3 · Jun 3, 2004

Are these 300 tires only available in an 18"? Or are we to see a new 15" tire one day??

V-MAN

· #4 · Jun 3, 2004

GRUMPY said:
Stopped ay Chopper City on the way home last nite, got to see one of the new 300 Avons mounted up and ready for a bike..........god are they big next to a 280..............huge difference 8) Marv said he already has one on the street.

Also got to see a new widened swingarm they were just unwrapping for a project.......stuff never ends :lol:

Tim

I guess Marv is making his own wheel wider to accomodate the 300? I have had ZERO luck in finding a local shop that is willing to cut and weld my wheel ... the joys of "small town living" If you get a chance I would love to see a pic of the 300 mounted on the Boss!

Don

fasteddie

· #5 · Jun 3, 2004

No clearance problems with the belt drive? Huh? Our rear fender is only 11 inches wide also, I'd say at least a fender change is in order.
I'd love to see some pictures of that bad boy.

FastEddie

V8GRUMPY

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 3, 2004

V-man,

Pretty sure that bike will be in Osage, so I'll get some shots and post if I can figure out how to do it. Yes he is now making the wheels in 3 sizes to accomodate 250 - 280 & 300.

Hopefully the outside rim is interchangeable with our existing centers.......
I think I can feel a new tire, rim, fender in '05?????????? :lol:

Man I wonder what that is gonna cost me on the brides Deuce

Tim

Busa Dave

· #7 · Jun 3, 2004

TJzz4 said:
Are these 300 tires only available in an 18"? Or are we to see a new 15" tire one day??

Talked to Avon this afternoon and the 18 is here now and maybe a 17 later but no 15 inch will be made.

Looks like new wheels if you want these. :evil:

V8GRUMPY

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 3, 2004

Eddie,

Fender for sure, I know he sells a 12" already. That may be what the wide swingarm was for, but not sure. I really didn't get too into it with Marv, seems everytime I sit with him for more than a ahlf hour or so, it costs me several $$$ :lol:

:wink:

But I would have to think this is one of the guys from his shop that is going to Osage.......so we'll have pictures and know if it has good traction by the end of the rally :wink: Or soome great shot of a 300 doing a burnout 8)

Tim

HogV8

· #9 · Jun 3, 2004

I've seen some pretty nice wide steel fenders in some of the catalogs . Some seem to have some style to them instead of being flat like the Boss fenders , they are rounded. Might order one someday and experiment .

IndyBill

· #10 · Jun 3, 2004

Jack,

If you go to www.limabosshoss.com they have a couple of 502's that they put steel fenders on the rear and front. I like the rear but not sure on the front. I don't like the way the front comes down in back.

Bill

V-MAN

· #11 · Jun 3, 2004

GRUMPY said:
V-man,

Pretty sure that bike will be in Osage, so I'll get some shots and post if I can figure out how to do it. Yes he is now making the wheels in 3 sizes to accomodate 250 - 280 & 300.

Hopefully the outside rim is interchangeable with our existing centers.......
I think I can feel a new tire, rim, fender in '05?????????? :lol:

Man I wonder what that is gonna cost me on the brides Deuce

Tim

Tim

I am really looking forward to the pictures! I just started to really advertise my blown Valk, when that sells I have plenty of things I want to do on the Boss - just have to free up that "chrome fund" first. I have wanted the 300 Avon since I heard they were going to market them ... course I'll need more power from the engine to make sure I can still smoke it!

Don

fasteddie

· #12 · Jun 4, 2004

Tim - as they say you can't take it with you. Hey that's what it's all about. Hell your hobby could be collecting stamps just thing how exciting that would be!! ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you saying a new swingarm also is needed? Could be real expensive now. I already bought steel front and rear fenders, just haven't put them on yet. If it ain't steel it ain't real, as we would say. Of course my new steel rear fender is 11 wide but easy enough to make wider with the MIG, if needed!!

FastEddie

Wild Bill

· #13 · Jun 4, 2004

A friend of mine, Steve Ward, who lives in Williamsburg, VA had the 300 mounted on his '02 502 earlier this year. Boss Hoss Cycles of VA did the install with the factory rear fender! It is a very tight fit, but looks bad to the bone. He went from the 280 to the 300.

I'm sure someone will get a picture on here sooner than I can since I probably won't see Steve for a few weeks.

Bill Taylor

fasteddie

· #14 · Jun 4, 2004

I was just reading an article on the web that says these new 300 series tires run very hot at 60 to 70 mph. This could present a problem with the weight of the Boss. Also they have an even lower side profile then the 280 which means a harder ride and weight rating has not been increased for the Boss.

The tire is 11 1/2 wide so it won't fit under my fender without mods.

Looks to be OK for the guys that only put 500 easy miles on a year but not for the Boss tourer or performance rider.

FastEddie

Busa Dave

· #15 · Jun 4, 2004

I might add that Avon stated more than once during our telecon that the 300 was not to be used on the BH! The tire is not designed for use on our bikes.

V-MAN

· #16 · Jun 4, 2004

Busa Dave said:
I might add that Avon stated more than once during our telecon that the 300 was not to be used on the BH! The tire is not designed for use on our bikes.

Dave

You are right ... AVON does not want the 300 used on the Boss BUT again they don't want the 250 used on the Boss either! I did some research earlier and the weight rating from the AVON 230 VS the AVON 250 there is very little difference. I believe AVON just does not want the liability. Same thing with Metzer - the 280 is not recomended. According to the factory and the tire manf the only MC tire that is recomended is the AVON 230 and my understanding the 230 is REALLY bad on wet roads (without being grooved first)!

Here is the thread that compares the various tires used -

http://www.v8bikeriders.com/viewtopic.php?t=24

http://www.v8bikeriders.com/viewtopic.php?t=89

Anybody have the specs on the 300 yet? I'd be interested in the load rating of the tire.

V8soundlover

· #17 · Jun 4, 2004

Peers 94' Boss with the Avon 300 has a selfmade dual chain setup. There was about half an inch of space between the chains and the tire. I'm sure we, with our "ordinary"

and much wider drive belt would need an offset wheel, or we would have to bring the drive belt more to the left side. There's a 1/4" gap between my 265 on a 9" wheel and the belt (overall width is 289mm , or better said 11.37" on a 9" wheel). That's the max possible without the need of an offset. Peer still has the original "bobbed" style fender. I think the early model fenders were wider than the newer ones, but yes- it looked like a very tight fit, too.

Loaf

HogV8

· #18 · Jun 4, 2004

Tim , I looked at the Lima Boss Hoss site and saw the two bikes with the steel fenders . I think rear looks great . I personally think it's all about the rear fender and how it fits the tire no matter what size the tire is . That's the reason I had my rear fender narrowed 1 1/2" so it fit the tire tighter . If you had a 12" wide tire and a 14" fender , I think it would look like **** . I'm thinking of keeping my 230 rear tire which measures approx . 9 1/4" wide and useing one of the 10" wide rounded steel fenders shortened and lowered as much as possible and that way it will make the tire appear wider than it is .

Back years ago when we used to build ridged frame choppers we used to use flat fenders fit just as tight to the tire as we could and it made a 5" wide tire look huge .

fasteddie

· #19 · Jun 4, 2004

Jack - I see you're old school like me when it comes to building bikes. I gotta show you the 64 Triumph chop I am now putting together. Same idea, 5 inch rear fender sitting 1/2 off the rear tire and it looks hugh. I'll have to wing you some photos of the mock up stage, you'll love it.

FastEddie

V8GRUMPY

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 4, 2004

Jack,

I agree. If I could figure a way to mount the current fender to the swingarm instead of the chassis, it could be lowered and the 280 would look twice as large :lol:

I talked about the 300/fender/paint/etc last nite to the bride......even after a couple of cocktails she wasn't impressed......she thought a stronger motor would be better for me :? Damned I love that woman :lol:

In reality, if you put two BH side by side with a 230 and a 280, the size does not JUMP out at you, I think the 300 would though.

Tim

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